death and emerged with platonic truth. truth, goodness, beauty, harmony, evolution, love, compassion, joy, kindness and that is the essential religious experience. then we kind of made it a religion and went to war. so, somebody is pointing to the moon as people are doing, you should be looking at the moon instead of otherwise. >> job as we know went through many, many trials. you wonder -- as i am reading, why do bad things happen to good people. then you get to that on the next page. i think a lot of that resonate with people right now. people dealing with adversity, with not being able to find a job, worrying about losing their homes and that kind of thing and you think why can't god help me. i am living a good life and it doesn't make sense of my understanding of god.